Does Prince Hall FreeMasonry have Traditional Observance Lodges? If not are there esoteric lodges?

I’m looking to become a Mason, but I would like to join a Traditional Observance Lodge. I would like to know are there any PHA Traditional Observance Lodges? I would like to join a lodge which is more esoteric in nature. Thanks.

9 thoughts on “Does Prince Hall FreeMasonry have Traditional Observance Lodges? If not are there esoteric lodges?

  1. Hello,

    White people want very much your attention and worship however they can get it.White people get special kicks out of wanting to be superior to non whites around the earth.If you have a dilemma or problem,Let the white man fix it for you so they can feel better about themselves.White people crave leaving their home or land to travel to your place of dwelling,to teach,educate and brainwash your skull.Once brainwashing has commenced,you soul is replaced with a white one.How do you know you soul has been replaced? Ask yourself this,do you crave power and domination? Do you crave being the richest man in the world? Do you prefer white skin,Blonde hair,blue eyes more than the rest of 6.9 billion population that does not have these features? Do you crave giving up your culture,people,language,facial features,and morale conscious to better please the white race? Do you slave for the white mans dollar bills and rather use the money to help white mans agendas and not help your people.These and many more white people philosophies are very much indicative of many non whites around the world.The white race must play God at all cost to control your view and substitute their reality in it’s place

  2. Its a good idea to join a traditional observance lodge which is more esoteric in nature.
    You are welcome.

  3. People who are looking to join the Freemasons aren’t supposed to discuss it. That’s part of the whole Secret Society thing.

    And nothing about your question relates to the category you have posted it in.

    Freemasonry has NOTHING to do with royalty.

  4. I think u have to be invited by or related to one to join anything re freemasonry…but anyway, here’s a little FYI while I’m here:

    “Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]

    Masons from the first initiation which is the first degree are urged to mightily “seek the Light!” The average Mason is continually saying that he is “seeking the Light,” and will spend his entire life “moving toward the Light.”

    People who haven’t studied this subject would assume that this “Light” is the revelation of the God of the Bible. This statement is continuously held up to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. In the above quote, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry.

    The sentence immediately preceding confirms not only that Lucifer is the Light-bearer, but that Masons of previous degrees have been led to believe that the opposite was true.

    The wording of this sentence is difficut to understand unless you have special knowledge. Doc Marquis was asked for his explanation, lets look at what he had to say:

    “The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the nineteenth Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God Alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer.” [Ibid.]

    It seems to contradict the sentence first quoted above, It appears to contradict the quote above where Pike identifies Lucifer as the Masonic Light-bearer. However when you understand the esoteric explanation from Doc Marquis, your understanding clears up completely.

    The Apocalypse is identified first by Pike as being the Book of Revelation written by the Apostle John. Pike then states that similar books from other religions are just as ‘inspired’ as Revelation, mentioning Plato, Philo, the Sephar Yezirah, and the Sohar. Pike says all three of these books — Apocalypse [Revelation], the Sephar Yezirah, and the Sohar, are all identically “inspired.” And since the last two books are of non-Christian faiths, Albert Pike is saying that the contents of Revelation are no big deal.

    Therefore, it is no big deal that the Book of Revelation denigrates the “pomp and works” of Satan, since the God of that book is known to hate Satan.

    Pike then says that these three books “are the completest embodiment of Occultism.” [Ibid.] Now, we understand that Pike views the God of the Apocalypse as being the opposite but equal to Satan just as typical Occultists believe and teach!

    Secondly, Doc Marquis provides the esoteric, occultic, explanation. Pike is also saying in this sentence that, in the previous 18 degrees, Masons believed that God was the Light-bearer, but now, in this 19th Degree, Pike is giving them new revelation. This insight completely squares with stated Masonic policy of deliberately misleading Masons in the lower degrees until they were really ready for the “truth.” This is the truth — Masonry worships Lucifer.

  5. To become a Prince Hall Mason, ask a Prince Hall Mason in your community. You should not consider following esoteric masonry at all. Just join the PHA lodge where the leaders of your community are members.

  6. To my knowledge, there is no Traditional Observance lodge movement in PHA Masonry, which it sounds like you are leaning toward. That said, you sort of need to decide what’s more important to you as far as the lodge experience goes—camaraderie and fraternalism with a demographic of men you feel the most comfortable with, or the pursuit of a more esoteric experience.

    PHA Masonry is historically (and I speak very generally here) more Christian in its makeup, while “mainstream” (for lack of a better term) Masonry is a more accepting of other faiths. PHA in some cases leans towards hazing that would be totally unacceptable in mainstream Masonry. That said, PHA Masonry is, in general, more formal at its meanings, often with a strict dress code, and has a more serious nature to it than many mainstream lodges. Again, I am speaking in broad generalities—every lodge is different.

    If you have friends who belong to a PHA lodge, or you feel a special affinity for members of the community who belong to a PHA lodge, or you are just plain more comfortable in a predominantly African-American group, all of those are legitimate reasons to join PHA. I don’t know what state you are in, but if it is one of the 40 US jurisdictions that have joint recognition between grand lodges, and allow joint visitation, you will find almost no restrictions on a PHA Mason visiting a mainstream lodge, so if there is a TO lodge in your state, and you check with their Master, you can certainly belong to a PHA lodge and still enjoy the TO lodge experience.

    Unfortunately, I don’t know of a single PHA jurisdiction in the US that will allow its members to belong to both a PHA and a mainstream lodge. PHA is (again very generally) very protective of their membership and does not allow many of the courtesies that mainstream grand lodges share across borders. Of course, every jurisdiction is different, and policies can shift from year to year on the whim of a grand master. But the best analogy I often use is the fear of the example of the Negro baseball leagues, which had no reason to exist once Major League Baseball desegregated. Likewise, PHA sees their numbers plummeting, combined with more African American men opting for the mainstream, and it has many jurisdictions very concerned about their future.

    Hope this helps.

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